61 transformer blocks › 60 MoE blocks
learnedself.mlp
Each position runs 8 of 384 routed experts, weighted by the router, plus one shared expert that every position runs.
Why
Many small experts. With few large experts, the tokens sent to one expert are more likely to cover very different kinds of knowledge, and one expert has to hold all of it. The authors of DeepSeekMoE split each expert into smaller ones and activate more of them at the same parameters and compute, so that knowledge can be divided among experts; the number of possible combinations of active experts grows enormously. DeepSeekMoE §3.1
Shared experts. Tokens routed to different experts may still need some common knowledge, and several routed experts may then each learn it. Experts that run for every token are meant to hold that common part, which the authors of the design say reduces redundancy among the routed experts and leaves them more specialised. This model has one such expert. DeepSeekMoE §3.2
All 19 steps
- in
- [B batch, T positions, 7168 d]
- out
- [B batch, T positions, 7168 d]
- parameters
- 16,958,226,816 · × 60 MoE blocks = 1,017,493,608,960
Parameters
16,958,226,816 parameters per instance, across its learned components
| Component | Calculation | Parameters |
|---|---|---|
| Router | 2,752,896 across its components | 2,752,896 |
| Routed expert | 16,911,433,728 | |
| Shared expert | 44,040,192 across its components | 44,040,192 |
| Per-instance total | 16,958,226,816 | |
Across 60 independent MoE blocks: parameters.
Derived from the pinned configuration and implementation, and equal to the count of the checkpoint’s tensors read from its safetensors headers (FP8 block scales and stored rotary buffers excluded).
Explanation
The implementation flattens batch and positions into one token axis for the experts and restores the shape (modeling_deepseek.py 527, 530).
Codemodeling_deepseek.py 486–609
if hasattr(config, "ep_size") and config.ep_size > 1:
assert config.ep_size == dist.get_world_size()
self.ep_size = config.ep_size
self.experts_per_rank = config.n_routed_experts // config.ep_size
self.ep_rank = dist.get_rank()
self.experts = nn.ModuleList(
[
(
DeepseekV3MLP(
config, intermediate_size=config.moe_intermediate_size
)
if i >= self.ep_rank * self.experts_per_rank
and i < (self.ep_rank + 1) * self.experts_per_rank
else None
)
for i in range(config.n_routed_experts)
]
)
else:
self.ep_size = 1
self.experts_per_rank = config.n_routed_experts
self.ep_rank = 0
self.experts = nn.ModuleList(
[
DeepseekV3MLP(
config, intermediate_size=config.moe_intermediate_size
)
for i in range(config.n_routed_experts)
]
)
self.gate = MoEGate(config)
if config.n_shared_experts is not None:
intermediate_size = config.moe_intermediate_size * config.n_shared_experts
self.shared_experts = DeepseekV3MLP(
config=config, intermediate_size=intermediate_size
) def forward(self, hidden_states):
identity = hidden_states
orig_shape = hidden_states.shape
topk_idx, topk_weight = self.gate(hidden_states)
hidden_states = hidden_states.view(-1, hidden_states.shape[-1])
flat_topk_idx = topk_idx.view(-1)
if not self.training:
y = self.moe_infer(hidden_states, topk_idx, topk_weight).view(*orig_shape)
if self.config.n_shared_experts is not None:
y = y + self.shared_experts(identity)
return y def moe_infer(self, x, topk_ids, topk_weight):
cnts = topk_ids.new_zeros((topk_ids.shape[0], len(self.experts)))
cnts.scatter_(1, topk_ids, 1)
tokens_per_expert = cnts.sum(dim=0)
idxs = topk_ids.view(-1).argsort()
sorted_tokens = x[idxs // topk_ids.shape[1]]
sorted_tokens_shape = sorted_tokens.shape
if self.ep_size > 1:
tokens_per_ep_rank = tokens_per_expert.view(self.ep_size, -1).sum(dim=1)
tokens_per_expert_group = tokens_per_expert.new_empty(
tokens_per_expert.shape[0]
)
dist.all_to_all_single(tokens_per_expert_group, tokens_per_expert)
output_splits = (
tokens_per_expert_group.view(self.ep_size, -1)
.sum(1)
.cpu()
.numpy()
.tolist()
)
gathered_tokens = sorted_tokens.new_empty(
tokens_per_expert_group.sum(dim=0).cpu().item(), sorted_tokens.shape[1]
)
input_split_sizes = tokens_per_ep_rank.cpu().numpy().tolist()
dist.all_to_all(
list(gathered_tokens.split(output_splits)),
list(sorted_tokens.split(input_split_sizes)),
)
tokens_per_expert_post_gather = tokens_per_expert_group.view(
self.ep_size, self.experts_per_rank
).sum(dim=0)
gatherd_idxs = np.zeros(shape=(gathered_tokens.shape[0],), dtype=np.int32)
s = 0
for i, k in enumerate(tokens_per_expert_group.cpu().numpy()):
gatherd_idxs[s : s + k] = i % self.experts_per_rank
s += k
gatherd_idxs = gatherd_idxs.argsort()
sorted_tokens = gathered_tokens[gatherd_idxs]
tokens_per_expert = tokens_per_expert_post_gather
tokens_per_expert = tokens_per_expert.cpu().numpy()
outputs = []
start_idx = 0
for i, num_tokens in enumerate(tokens_per_expert):
end_idx = start_idx + num_tokens
if num_tokens == 0:
continue
expert = self.experts[i + self.ep_rank * self.experts_per_rank]
tokens_for_this_expert = sorted_tokens[start_idx:end_idx]
expert_out = expert(tokens_for_this_expert)
outputs.append(expert_out)
start_idx = end_idx
outs = torch.cat(outputs, dim=0) if len(outputs) else sorted_tokens.new_empty(0)
if self.ep_size > 1:
new_x = torch.empty_like(outs)
new_x[gatherd_idxs] = outs
gathered_tokens = new_x.new_empty(*sorted_tokens_shape)
dist.all_to_all(
list(gathered_tokens.split(input_split_sizes)),
list(new_x.split(output_splits)),
)
outs = gathered_tokens
new_x = torch.empty_like(outs)
new_x[idxs] = outs
final_out = (
new_x.view(*topk_ids.shape, -1)
.type(topk_weight.dtype)
.mul_(topk_weight.unsqueeze(dim=-1))
.sum(dim=1)
.type(new_x.dtype)
)
return final_outSources2
Direct evidence
The MoE layer holds the routed experts, the router and one shared expert MLP of n_shared_experts × moe_intermediate_size features.
moe-init · moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct / modeling_deepseek.py
Pinned revision fd1984e2b7a3 ↗ · lines 486–521
Read code excerpt
if hasattr(config, "ep_size") and config.ep_size > 1:
assert config.ep_size == dist.get_world_size()
self.ep_size = config.ep_size
self.experts_per_rank = config.n_routed_experts // config.ep_size
self.ep_rank = dist.get_rank()
self.experts = nn.ModuleList(
[
(
DeepseekV3MLP(
config, intermediate_size=config.moe_intermediate_size
)
if i >= self.ep_rank * self.experts_per_rank
and i < (self.ep_rank + 1) * self.experts_per_rank
else None
)
for i in range(config.n_routed_experts)
]
)
else:
self.ep_size = 1
self.experts_per_rank = config.n_routed_experts
self.ep_rank = 0
self.experts = nn.ModuleList(
[
DeepseekV3MLP(
config, intermediate_size=config.moe_intermediate_size
)
for i in range(config.n_routed_experts)
]
)
self.gate = MoEGate(config)
if config.n_shared_experts is not None:
intermediate_size = config.moe_intermediate_size * config.n_shared_experts
self.shared_experts = DeepseekV3MLP(
config=config, intermediate_size=intermediate_size
)Direct evidence
Each token’s output is the router-weighted sum of its selected experts plus the shared expert applied to every token; tokens are sorted by expert, each expert runs on its tokens, and outputs are scattered back.
moe-forward · moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct / modeling_deepseek.py
Pinned revision fd1984e2b7a3 ↗ · lines 523–609
Read code excerpt
def forward(self, hidden_states):
identity = hidden_states
orig_shape = hidden_states.shape
topk_idx, topk_weight = self.gate(hidden_states)
hidden_states = hidden_states.view(-1, hidden_states.shape[-1])
flat_topk_idx = topk_idx.view(-1)
if not self.training:
y = self.moe_infer(hidden_states, topk_idx, topk_weight).view(*orig_shape)
if self.config.n_shared_experts is not None:
y = y + self.shared_experts(identity)
return y… lines 534–535 omitted …
def moe_infer(self, x, topk_ids, topk_weight):
cnts = topk_ids.new_zeros((topk_ids.shape[0], len(self.experts)))
cnts.scatter_(1, topk_ids, 1)
tokens_per_expert = cnts.sum(dim=0)
idxs = topk_ids.view(-1).argsort()
sorted_tokens = x[idxs // topk_ids.shape[1]]
sorted_tokens_shape = sorted_tokens.shape
if self.ep_size > 1:
tokens_per_ep_rank = tokens_per_expert.view(self.ep_size, -1).sum(dim=1)
tokens_per_expert_group = tokens_per_expert.new_empty(
tokens_per_expert.shape[0]
)
dist.all_to_all_single(tokens_per_expert_group, tokens_per_expert)
output_splits = (
tokens_per_expert_group.view(self.ep_size, -1)
.sum(1)
.cpu()
.numpy()
.tolist()
)
gathered_tokens = sorted_tokens.new_empty(
tokens_per_expert_group.sum(dim=0).cpu().item(), sorted_tokens.shape[1]
)
input_split_sizes = tokens_per_ep_rank.cpu().numpy().tolist()
dist.all_to_all(
list(gathered_tokens.split(output_splits)),
list(sorted_tokens.split(input_split_sizes)),
)
tokens_per_expert_post_gather = tokens_per_expert_group.view(
self.ep_size, self.experts_per_rank
).sum(dim=0)
gatherd_idxs = np.zeros(shape=(gathered_tokens.shape[0],), dtype=np.int32)
s = 0
for i, k in enumerate(tokens_per_expert_group.cpu().numpy()):
gatherd_idxs[s : s + k] = i % self.experts_per_rank
s += k
gatherd_idxs = gatherd_idxs.argsort()
sorted_tokens = gathered_tokens[gatherd_idxs]
tokens_per_expert = tokens_per_expert_post_gather
tokens_per_expert = tokens_per_expert.cpu().numpy()
outputs = []
start_idx = 0
for i, num_tokens in enumerate(tokens_per_expert):
end_idx = start_idx + num_tokens
if num_tokens == 0:
continue
expert = self.experts[i + self.ep_rank * self.experts_per_rank]
tokens_for_this_expert = sorted_tokens[start_idx:end_idx]
expert_out = expert(tokens_for_this_expert)
outputs.append(expert_out)
start_idx = end_idx
outs = torch.cat(outputs, dim=0) if len(outputs) else sorted_tokens.new_empty(0)
if self.ep_size > 1:
new_x = torch.empty_like(outs)
new_x[gatherd_idxs] = outs
gathered_tokens = new_x.new_empty(*sorted_tokens_shape)
dist.all_to_all(
list(gathered_tokens.split(input_split_sizes)),
list(new_x.split(output_splits)),
)
outs = gathered_tokens
new_x = torch.empty_like(outs)
new_x[idxs] = outs
final_out = (
new_x.view(*topk_ids.shape, -1)
.type(topk_weight.dtype)
.mul_(topk_weight.unsqueeze(dim=-1))
.sum(dim=1)
.type(new_x.dtype)
)
return final_out